Alive & Vidiot, do you remember from which WT was that illustration of the "chain of command"? -- The one with the GB on top of the world in their fancy chairs, down to the measly publishers with their stackable chairs, and, as you mentioned, no Jesus in sight?
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The shift: from follower to wanting to leave
by paradisebeauty inthis week has been the week when my whole way of thinking shifted.
i still cannot believe how this can happen so fast.
over a period of seven days i went from not even imagining that i could ever not be a witness to wanting to get out of this organisation.. .
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2015 April 10, and 15, BOE Repost!
by Atlantis inthese boes have been requested because we received a message that the old links were inactive.
i just tried the old links and they both worked fine for me.
.. 2015 april 10, boe ( re: jw broadcasting monthly programs).
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2015 April 15, BOE!
by Atlantis in2015 april 15, boe.. re: convention reminders video.
.. click the link below and then click the green download button.. .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/l2wxhcf.
.. .. atlantis!.
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Huh. Proper decorum at conventions.
6 minutes to review dress & grooming, no strollers, no whooping and yelling at baptism or talks, polite applause only. No seat saving, no coming in late, be prepared to take notes & pay attention.... No going off-site for lunch... mind your manners when new releases are released, don't leave sessions early.... Honor special parking arrangements, behave yourself at hotels/motels.... And of course, support the important kingdom preaching & disciple-making work by contributing generously.
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... All the men are really interested in the man on the left, while a picture in background looks very "Brokeback Mountain"-ish...? -
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"Jehovah's people as a whole can never be corrupted..."
by cappytan inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgds4z-h2i.
transcript below (with key points of interest bolded):.
please open your bibles to phil.
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Muddy Waters
Did you notice this part???
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"... Jehovah reminds us through his word that sometimes things happen in Jehovah’s organization that ought not to happen.
Turn, please, to 1 Samuel chapter 24 and verse 2.
Here, young David was enduring persecution from Saul, who had lost Jehovah’s favor and was jealous of David.
Notice what happens here in verse 2.
1 Samuel 24:2
“So Saul took 3,000 men chosen from all Israel and went to look for David and his men on the rocky cliffs of the mountain goats.”
Imagine that. The King of Israel, using Israel’s army, which was supported by dedicated funds, to go after a personal enemy.
An enemy of his that actually had Jehovah’s favor.
That was wrong on so many levels and it continued for years."...
It's this part that gets me:
"Imagine that. The King of Israel, using Israel’s army, which was supported by dedicated funds, to go after a personal enemy."
"Supported by dedicated funds" !!!!!" -- "to go after a personal enemy." !!!!!!
And the speaker (incredibly boring speaker) thinks it is shocking that the king would grossly misappropriate the use of these funds!!
Does Watchtower ever use "dedicated funds" to go after a personal enemy"????? (a rhetorical question for most of you!!). Fighting or defending themselves against pedophile or child abuse lawsuits much?? Oh my gawd.
I cannot believe what comes out of these guy's mouths.
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JW.org does partial U-turn over Awake! magazine Rama Singh misquote
by Watchtower-Free inposted on april 19, 2015http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/jw-org-does-partial-u-turn-over-awake-magazine-rama-singh-misquote
jw.org has removed their misquote of rama singh from digital versions of awake!
magazine.
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Awesome, thank you, WT-Free!
The GB are such cowards, yet so arrogant in never apologizing. Buncha weasly-wording fakers full of double talk and cover ups. Their lies pile higher and higher and sooner or later their tower will tumble, because according to their own claim, a house cannot stand divided.
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Is it common for old men to marry young JW?
by adjusted knowledge ini left in the 90's and marriage partners were similar in age at my former congregation.
i ran into a former jw friend from my childhood.
i haven't seen him in 15 years.
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My husband & I met and married at the KH, he is 15-20 years older than me. We have been married for close to 20 years now, but came out of that stupid religion only a few years ago.
We are *not* pedophiles, as SoWhatNow most incorrectly said. Nor are we mentally unbalanced (other than what this cult has done, but that continues to improve as we journey out of it together!) There are some who may claim we are mentally diseased apostates, but that is a whole other thing.
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My Assembly Experience
by Clambake injw literally take forever to say nothing.
after a whole day of listening how to obtain peace , i am not sure if i obtain peace from obeying mosaic law, having a relationship to jehovah though jesus or be baptized and have a direct line to jehovah.
every speaker tries to out bore and contract the other one.
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Ha!
And this is the "knowledge that leads to everlasting life"!! Bah!!!
The drones drone on...
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Who REALLY believed in the idea of living forever on earth??
by stuckinarut2 inseriously.....even when you were 100% in "the truth", did you really believe in living forever?
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Oh yes, I believed it. That was the draw. That was the hook. It was even the title of the book I studied: "You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth"!!!
I was 20 years old when the JWs got me. I was in a terrible state at the time. They got me good, I bought the whole enchilada for the next 30 years. I'm over 50 now and my whole youth, my whole adult life and learning and experiences were taken from me. I knew only their agenda, which I believed with my whole f*cking heart, soul, mind, and strength -- you know how they drill that into you, to the nth degree! - They are very good with the "tenths of the mint and the dill and the cumin"!! And I taught it to my kids, to my sweet dear little children. (One of our boys is an alcoholic, another one is very .... well, they're working on things but I can see they have few coping skills for life.... But thank gawd nobody in our family has stayed in this f'ing religion! We are all out!)
I hate this religion, this cult, I hate their smugness, their arrogance, their pompous hypocritical lying faces... I read Crisis of Conscience with tears pouring down my face.... Such a betrayal.